Re: Facebook Synchronet BBS group
By: Nightfox to Codefenix on Fri Feb 06 2026 01:19 pm

I think a lot of people are still familiar with web browsers and web sites.. There are web forums people use that don't have their own dedicated app, so people would naturally have to use the web browser for that. For Synchronet, it would just a matter of loading the web browser and going to a Dove-Net BBS (Vertrauen would be a good choice).

Sure, but you're thinking like someone who already knows the ins and outs of a Synchronet BBS with a webserver. A newbie doesn't have such knowledge going into the hobby, and needs to be directed to those things. It just makes sense that they'd start out by seeking answers in the places they're already used to (FB, Reddit, etc.).

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This is kind of a rant, sorry.

Every few weeks or maybe it's months, someone posts a support question in th

I always answer when I see these messages. I always try to guide them in the ysops and give them a link to the "how to get support" wiki page which inclu , they'll say "oh sorry, I'll follow-up there" and the other half the time t appropriate support channels. And almost *never* do they then post the same supported them. Huh? I also get direct e-mails requests for support, but le

If you find it so hard to *use* a BBS (e.g. to ask a support question about

Similarly, I totally don't get sites like this

you have a facebook synchronet group, reddit site,etc etc

You made those things so you are obligated to provide support on them.
i realize it's the wrong tool for the job so you should just remove them
and stick to your guns and use the support channels you want.

Doing so you are reducing the amount of people you reach and the amount of support you can give.
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I don't get sites like this: https://synchronetbbs.org/

Or Discord channels dedicated to "supporting" Synchronet. Why? We already ha

Don't you want want all the people that actually have answers and the people

people are trying to blindly do something. marissa doesn't know much about synchronet but he makes these sites. you should private msg them and ask them to take them down. the only problem is they've been running for many years. so you can't just do that now.
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On 05 Feb 2026, Digital Man said the following...

I don't get sites like this: https://synchronetbbs.org/

they're selling hosting

i dont think marissa makes any money selling hosting to these fly by night sysops. he gives them a free demo and they abandon it.

i wish i had a good answer. maybe they just feel entitled to YOUR answer and

maybe it'd be wise to forward all the links (and this page itself)

https://www.synchro.net/docs/index.htm

you can't use social media and complain when people use social media. the synchronet shit should be yanked from fb and reddit.
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Re: Facebook Synchronet BBS group
By: Digital Man to All on Thu Feb 05 2026 10:12 pm

I don't get sites like this: https://synchronetbbs.org/

Yeah, this is a whole other topic. And I have strong opinions about this sit te only to die a few days later.

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well the operator tries. the problem is the type of people they attract are not really sysops. i talked to him about it but he still does it. i dont think he makes money doing it, either.
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Or Discord channels dedicated to "supporting" Synchronet. Why? We already have #synchronet on irc.synchro.net

also deuce always bans me when i login there to report a problem!
no idea why!
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Re: Facebook Synchronet BBS group
By: Codefenix to Digital Man on Fri Feb 06 2026 10:37 am

3) FB is right there in their pocket, unlike DOVE-Net which isn't necessarily as readily accessible, at least not initially for newcomers

Uisng a smartphone, you could use the web interface on a Synchronet BBS to p

Nightfox

but it would totally suck doing so.
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Re: Re: Facebook Synchronet BBS group
By: |15Mrí to all on Sun Feb 08 2026 11:12 pm

also deuce always bans me when i login there to report a problem!
no idea why!

You're not serious, right? The reason is pretty obvious.
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Re: Facebook Synchronet BBS group
By: |15Mrí to Nightfox on Sun Feb 08 2026 11:13 pm

Uisng a smartphone, you could use the web interface on a Synchronet BBS to
post a question on Dove-Net

but it would totally suck doing so.

Probably not any worse than using any other web forum though..

Nightfox

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Re: Facebook Synchronet BBS group
By: Digital Man to All on Thu Feb 05 2026 10:08 pm

right direction (e.g. give them a link to the appropriate wiki or documentat pages), but I also *always* tell them that Facebook is not where we prefer t

Idea.. Make a page that says "It looks like you asked me for support on Facebook... Try the wiki first, then ask for support in one of these preferred places:" and just respond to all questions with a link to that page.

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Or Discord channels dedicated to "supporting" Synchronet. Why? We already have #synchronet on irc.synchro.net

also deuce always bans me when i login there to report a problem!
no idea why!

I wasn't sure if this was MRO until I read this. :D


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To: Digital Man

Re: Re: Facebook Synchronet BBS group
By: Mrí to all on Sun Feb 08 2026 11:12 pm

also deuce always bans me when i login there to report a problem! no
idea why!

You're not serious, right? The reason is pretty obvious.

Because I told him his wife has a dick nose.

sorry deuce!
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To: Mike Powell

Or Discord channels dedicated to "supporting" Synchronet. Why? We already have #synchronet on irc.synchro.net

also deuce always bans me when i login there to report a problem! no
idea why!

I wasn't sure if this was MRO until I read this. :D

it don't like my fancy name mrí

i changed it

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That said, I find myself thinking smiliar questions when I post about a possible bug in the bbs software support echo just to be told that the correct place to talk about/report them is a website.

I do it, but I don't really get that, either.

That does seem backwards. Now, if it's an official bug reporting system (like sourceforge or gitlab), I understand that. At one time, we were going to use GNATS for Synchronet bug tracking/discussions and we *did* have Synchronet message base integration for that. Now we use gitlab, but I haven't really don
much beyond the "echoing" of gitlab.synchro.net issue posts/disucssions to one
of the support subs on DOVE-Net.

gitlab is nice, and having it echoed in does give us some idea what bugs,
and upgrades, are being worked on. Mainly when I find it irritating is
when I cannot remember my userID or password to get logged in first. ;)


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I don't get sites like this:
https://synchronetbbs.org/

Neither do I. Seems like they're trying to make money by selling
pre-fab SBBS's for "sysops" that don't know how to run one themselves.
I think that's "Marisa's" site.

Yeah, but I think there have also been a couple of sysops over the years
that have used it when they don't have the resources to host it themselves.
That would be an easy (although, IIRC, less flexible) alternative for them.


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Re: Facebook Synchronet BBS group
By: Codefenix to Nightfox on Sat Feb 07 2026 09:32 am

I think a lot of people are still familiar with web browsers and web
sites.. There are web forums people use that don't have their own

Sure, but you're thinking like someone who already knows the ins and outs of a Synchronet BBS with a webserver. A newbie doesn't have such knowledge

Not really; my line of thought was that even if someone isn't familiar with Synchronet, I think many people are familiar with using a web browser and should be able to have a look at the Synchronet wiki and read the documentation. Also, they could look at, say, Vertrauen's web site and look in the Dove-Net message areas for Synchronet; ecwebv4 is similar to a web forum where you can read through messages.

When I first started using Synchronet and didn't know anything about it, I started reading through the Synchronet documentation (at the time, the wiki didn't exist, so I read through the older web-based documentation). That was my first thought for learning about Synchronet; I wouldn't have thought to post in a Facebook group to ask questions about Synchronet.

Nightfox

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Mike Powell wrote to GAMGEE <=-

I don't get sites like this:
https://synchronetbbs.org/

Neither do I. Seems like they're trying to make money by selling
pre-fab SBBS's for "sysops" that don't know how to run one themselves.
I think that's "Marisa's" site.

Yeah, but I think there have also been a couple of sysops over the
years that have used it when they don't have the resources to host it themselves.
That would be an easy (although, IIRC, less flexible) alternative for them.

I suppose that's probably true, although I think it's more expensive
than using something like a $5/mo VPS on a cloud server. <SHRUG>




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