Hello Aaron!

22 Jun 70 04:25, you wrote to me:

A year ago, Trump said that Iran's nuclear facilities were
"obliterated" Their ability to make nuclear weapons was

"set back

years"

It's been a year and he underestimated the rebuild time.

Or he lied. Most independent organizations/governments agreed
that it hadn't done much to hamper Iran's nuclear ambitions.

If someone gives an estimate of "years" and it turns out to be "a
year" I don't consider that lying.

Except it wasn't a year. it was "months" less than 9 months, to be precise.

Biden said that he'd cure cancer if he became president. Was that
Democrat lying? Obama said that he'd make healthcare affordable for
all Americans. Was that Democrat lying?

Trump has also said he'd "cure cancer". Lying? no. Overambitious? yes. neither claimed to have done such a thing.


And Obama said he'd make healthcare *more* affordable for all Americans. I'd go so far as to say he did so.

(The "If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep it" statement though. ick. While he was a bit more optimistic about that when he intially said it, it turned out that was absollutely not true. Even he has admitted he dropped the ball on that one)

You've got to give Trump some time. If it turns out that there was no
such enrichment facility in Iran, then you get the right to call him a liar.

No, Trump said he "obliterated" Iran's ability to enrich nuclear material. he said their ability was "set back years"

Then, 9 months later he said the attacks were necessary to destroy nuclear sites that were working on enriching nuclear fuel. You know, the sites that were "obliterated" less than a year before.

He either lied last year, or he lied this year.

Or, as I said, it's far more likely he lied both times.


Even his own administration can't get their messaging straight when talking about the reasons for attacking Iran.

Gas prices have risen $0.25-$0.30 per gallon for regular each week for the last month. That means gas prices are over $1 more today than they were 4 weeks ago.

I drove up to Hayward a little over a month ago. It cost me around $55 to fill my tank up from empty to full. Today it would cost me $80. It's rising faster than it did in early 2022, where it peaked at over $5 a gallon.

And it's all because Donnie, the "president of peace", Mr "end the forever wars" got goaded into starting a new nation-building forever-war in Iran becasue he's easily manipulated. Tell him he has to do something to "appear tough" and he'll do it.




Mike


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countries have indicated that they will not provide that help. This i a problem that the US caused and that the US must now solve.

A year ago, Trump said that Iran's nuclear facilities were
"obliterated" Their ability to make nuclear weapons was "set back years"

It's been a year and he underestimated the rebuild time.

Surely Kamala would have done a better job. Let's vote for Kamala in 2028. She knows exactly how long it takes terrorists to rebuild nuclear weapons, unlike incompetent Trump.

lol

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Re: Has Iran been defeated?
By: Mike Miller to Aaron Thomas on Tue Mar 17 2026 12:55 pm

Well we don't have to look far to see
he's lying. See the recent MAGA
resignation, dude says as much.

MAGA continues taking Ls that hurt
everybody for no reason while
refusing to acknowledge them.
Lessons will be learned eventually.


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On 23 Mar 2026, Aaron Thomas said the following...

He still has time to do it.

And... Trump 2028!!!!

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A year ago, Trump said that Iran's nuclear facilities were
"obliterated" Their ability to make nuclear weapons was "set back
years"

It's been a year and he underestimated the rebuild time.

Or he lied. Most independent organizations/governments agreed that it hadn't done much to hamper Iran's nuclear ambitions.

If someone gives an estimate of "years" and it turns out to be "a year" I don't consider that lying.

Biden said that he'd cure cancer if he became president. Was that Democrat lying? Obama said that he'd make healthcare affordable for all Americans. Was that Democrat lying?

You've got to give Trump some time. If it turns out that there was no such enrichment facility in Iran, then you get the right to call him a liar.

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Re: Re: Has Iran been defeated?
By: Aaron Thomas to Max Stubbs on Mon Mar 23 2026 04:07 pm

You're ignoring Iranians on video
cheering the death of Khamenei, and
you're putting words in the mouths o
7000+ dead people. There's a word fo
that but I won't say it because you
seem like a pretty good guy.

I'm not ignoring them at all. But where
are those people now? Trump was not
trying to and has not attempted to
help those people, who we can agree
are justly against a Theocracy. He
has set them back not helped them.

And say what you want, I won't hold it
against you outside of this board. I
will rise to the same level you may,
though, I believe in climbing the
escalation ladder.


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Re: Re: Has Iran been defeated?
By: Brent Hendricks to Max Stubbs on Mon Mar 23 2026 02:01 pm

I could care less what side of the
political pendulum you have planted
yourself on, if I have information t
calls that into question, I will
fairely debate you on it.

Fuckin AMEN brother, that's what I like
to hear. Have principles, fight for
them, adjust as you learn, and always
be critical when you know you must.

It's how we grow, it's how democracy
functions, and how we reach consensus
we can all live with.

My fight with MAGA, beyond the lack
of human empathy, has primarily been
driven by my perception that they
have generally entirely abandoned
our foundational value of
enlightenment era democratic
principles, and I cannot abide that.

There are other issues beyond that,
but if an American refuses to believe
in our national ethos, you cease being
an American to me. As for non
Americans, it's a matter of having
quality back and forth that's
productive.

So rock on and stay Metal brother!



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Trump indicates that the war against Iran was won in the first hour.

The world thinks differently.

In Oman, an oil refinery/storage facility is on fire because an Iranian Shaheed struck it. An oil tanker is on fire in Iraq because an Iranian drone struck the ship. Iran has laid mines in the Strait of Hormuz. All of this doesn't sound like a war won by the US.

The Strait of Hormuz is closed.

In the US, people are now afraid that Iran will carry out terrorist attacks in the US.

In short, the US has started a war that it doesn't seem to be winning yet. The Iranian regime is not yet in danger. There is no popular uprising.

What was the goal of this war again?

Oh yes, there was no goal.

Now then, good luck with everything, because what are you going to achieve now?

Meanwhile, Brent oil is almost at $100 again.

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You're ignoring Iranians on video
cheering the death of Khamenei, and
you're putting words in the mouths o
7000+ dead people. There's a word fo
that but I won't say it because you
seem like a pretty good guy.

I'm not ignoring them at all. But where
are those people now? Trump was not
trying to and has not attempted to
help those people, who we can agree
are justly against a Theocracy. He
has set them back not helped them.

After the genocide, Trump deployed the USS Lincoln, an aircraft carrier, a combat ship, a destroyer, and said to the Iranian people "Help is on the way." We have at least 4 reasons to attack Iran and payback for all those deaths falls somewhere on the list.

How does what Trump's doing help the regime? How does it hurt the 7000 people who died? Did they want Trump to send a planeload of cash to the regime instead?

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