Hello Vincent!

I continue to try and send my echo updates, but there is no connection to your system. This has been going on now for over 2 weeks.

Here's a line from today's binkd log:
=== Cut ===
? 06 Mar 10:15:39 [5323] connection to 2:25/21@fidonet failed: Connection timed out
=== Cut ===
--
Sincerely,
Marc Lewis


--- GoldED+/EMX 1.1.5-b20250409
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Hello Marc!

06 Mar 26 11:17, you wrote to me:

Please try and use 2:250/1 as the address and advise of experience.

May be I need to change the port address.

Vince

Hello Vincent!

I continue to try and send my echo updates, but there is no connection
to your system. This has been going on now for over 2 weeks.

Here's a line from today's binkd log:
=== Cut ===
? 06 Mar 10:15:39 [5323] connection to 2:25/21@fidonet failed:
Connection timed out
=== Cut ===
--
Sincerely,
Marc Lewis

Vincent


--- Mageia Linux v9 X64/Mbse v1.1.7/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240604
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Hello Vincent!

06 Mar 26 18:36, you wrote to me:

Hello Marc!

06 Mar 26 11:17, you wrote to me:

Please try and use 2:250/1 as the address and advise of experience.

May be I need to change the port address.

What do I utilise as the system IP address?

Marc Lewis


--- GoldED+/EMX 1.1.5-b20250409
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Hello Marc!

07 Mar 26 20:15, you wrote to me:

Hello Vincent!

06 Mar 26 18:36, you wrote to me:

Hello Marc!

06 Mar 26 11:17, you wrote to me:

Please try and use 2:250/1 as the address and advise of
experience.

May be I need to change the port address.

What do I utilise as the system IP address?

Marc Lewis

Pardon ?

Just send to 2:250/1

In the meanwhile I have now changed the port used from 24555 to the default of 24554 - JIC (Just in Case) which should be in the DAILY nodelists as of Saturday.

The url is the same if you do not use a nodelist.

Vincent


--- Mageia Linux v9 X64/Mbse v1.1.7/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240604
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Hi Marc,

On 2026-03-16 17:42:26, you wrote to Vincent Coen:

In any case, I will continue researching why that machine is not
resolving the address properly. It is pointed to 8.8.8.8 and 1.1.1.1
for name resolution, which is extremely puzzling. -- Kindest regards,
Marc

Does OS2 have a commandline resolver?

I get this on Windows:

nslookup applewoodbbs.linkpc.net 1.1.1.1

Server: one.one.one.one
Address: 1.1.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: applewoodbbs.linkpc.net
Address: 82.30.228.158

nslookup applewoodbbs.linkpc.net 8.8.8.8

Server: dns.google
Address: 8.8.8.8

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: applewoodbbs.linkpc.net
Address: 82.30.228.158


Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.3.2.6-B20251227
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On Tue, 17 Mar 2026 07:36:34 +0100 Wilfred van Velzen <0@464.280.2> wrote:

Does OS2 have a commandline resolver?

What were you thinking? :D :D

I get this on Windows:

nslookup applewoodbbs.linkpc.net 1.1.1.1

Server: one.one.one.one
Address: 1.1.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: applewoodbbs.linkpc.net
Address: 82.30.228.158

nslookup applewoodbbs.linkpc.net 8.8.8.8

Server: dns.google
Address: 8.8.8.8

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: applewoodbbs.linkpc.net
Address: 82.30.228.158

nslookup applewoodbbs.linkpc.net 1.1.1.1

Server: one.one.one.one
Address: 1.1.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: applewoodbbs.linkpc.net
Address: 82.30.228.158

nslookup applewoodbbs.linkpc.net 8.8.8.8

Server: dns.google
Address: 8.8.8.8

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: applewoodbbs.linkpc.net
Address: 82.30.228.158

ver /r

4OS2 5.00.0 OS/2 Version is 4,50
Build 5.00.0.168 (Nov 24 2025 15:23:43)

'Tommi

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Hi Tommi,

On 2026-03-17 20:59:20, you wrote to me:

Does OS2 have a commandline resolver?

What were you thinking? :D :D

I don't know anything about OS2, except it's almost as old as DOS. ;-)

I get this on Windows:

nslookup applewoodbbs.linkpc.net 1.1.1.1

Server: one.one.one.one
Address: 1.1.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: applewoodbbs.linkpc.net
Address: 82.30.228.158

nslookup applewoodbbs.linkpc.net 8.8.8.8

Server: dns.google
Address: 8.8.8.8

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: applewoodbbs.linkpc.net
Address: 82.30.228.158

nslookup applewoodbbs.linkpc.net 1.1.1.1

Server: one.one.one.one
Address: 1.1.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: applewoodbbs.linkpc.net
Address: 82.30.228.158

nslookup applewoodbbs.linkpc.net 8.8.8.8

Server: dns.google
Address: 8.8.8.8

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: applewoodbbs.linkpc.net
Address: 82.30.228.158

So all the same correct results. So it will be interesting to see what Marc's system produces...

ver /r

4OS2 5.00.0 OS/2 Version is 4,50
Build 5.00.0.168 (Nov 24 2025 15:23:43)

That doesn't seem so old?


Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.3.2.6-B20251227
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Hello Wilfred!

17 Mar 26 21:11, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

Hi Tommi,

On 2026-03-17 20:59:20, you wrote to me:

Does OS2 have a commandline resolver?

What were you thinking? :D :D

I don't know anything about OS2, except it's almost as old as DOS. ;-)

I get this on Windows:

nslookup applewoodbbs.linkpc.net 1.1.1.1

Server: one.one.one.one
Address: 1.1.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: applewoodbbs.linkpc.net
Address: 82.30.228.158

nslookup applewoodbbs.linkpc.net 8.8.8.8

Server: dns.google
Address: 8.8.8.8

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: applewoodbbs.linkpc.net
Address: 82.30.228.158

nslookup applewoodbbs.linkpc.net 1.1.1.1

Server: one.one.one.one
Address: 1.1.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: applewoodbbs.linkpc.net
Address: 82.30.228.158

nslookup applewoodbbs.linkpc.net 8.8.8.8

Server: dns.google
Address: 8.8.8.8

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: applewoodbbs.linkpc.net
Address: 82.30.228.158

So all the same correct results. So it will be interesting to see what Marc's system produces...

ver /r

4OS2 5.00.0 OS/2 Version is 4,50
Build 5.00.0.168 (Nov 24 2025 15:23:43)

That doesn't seem so old?

The OS/2 version is 4.50 and that over 25 years old.

The 5.0 bit is only for 4OS2 and that is coming up to the same period.

Vincent


--- Mageia Linux v9 X64/Mbse v1.1.7/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240604
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On 17.3.2026 22.11, Wilfred van Velzen wrote:

ver /r

4OS2 5.00.0 OS/2 Version is 4,50
Build 5.00.0.168 (Nov 24 2025 15:23:43)

That doesn't seem so old?

Actually 4OS2 is the CMD.EXE replacement. It is still supported, quite new. The OS/2 version itself is "Warp Server for eBusiness v4.52" :-)

'Tommi

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Hi Tommi,

On 2026-03-18 08:54:38, you wrote to me:

ver /r

4OS2 5.00.0 OS/2 Version is 4,50
Build 5.00.0.168 (Nov 24 2025 15:23:43)

That doesn't seem so old?

Actually 4OS2 is the CMD.EXE replacement. It is still supported, quite new.

And that includes tools like 'nslookup' ?

The OS/2 version itself is "Warp Server for eBusiness v4.52" :-)

And that is over 25 years old according to Vince?

Bye, Wilfred.

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On 18.3.2026 9.41, Wilfred van Velzen wrote:

Actually 4OS2 is the CMD.EXE replacement. It is still supported,

quite new.

And that includes tools like 'nslookup' ?

No, nslookup belongs to os.

Directory of E:\MPTN\BIN\nslookup.exe

18.09.01 17.47 205 037 0 nslookup.exe

The OS/2 version itself is "Warp Server for eBusiness v4.52" :-)

And that is over 25 years old according to Vince?

Almost. :)

'Tommi

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Hello Tommi!

18 Mar 26 13:43, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

The OS/2 version itself is "Warp Server for eBusiness v4.52" :-)

And that is over 25 years old according to Vince?

Almost. :)

Actuallly, there is a very new version of OS/2 by ArcaNOAE with a multitude of improvements, but it is NOT free:

https://www.arcanoae.com/
--
Cheers,
Marc


--- GoldED+/EMX 1.1.5-b20250409
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On 18.3.2026 17.59, Marc Lewis wrote:

>> TK> The OS/2 version itself is "Warp Server for eBusiness v4.52" :-)
>>
>> And that is over 25 years old according to Vince?

TK> Almost. :)

Actuallly, there is a very new version of OS/2 by ArcaNOAE with a
multitude of improvements, but it is NOT free:

https://www.arcanoae.com/

Of course.

But I don't see any reason to update.

'Tommi

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* Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Finland (2:221/360.0)

Hello Marc!

18 Mar 26 09:59, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

Hello Tommi!

18 Mar 26 13:43, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

The OS/2 version itself is "Warp Server for eBusiness v4.52"

:-)

And that is over 25 years old according to Vince?

Almost. :)

Actuallly, there is a very new version of OS/2 by ArcaNOAE with a
multitude of improvements, but it is NOT free:

https://www.arcanoae.com/
--
Cheers,
Marc

The base is still OS/2 warp v4 or may be 4.5.

I am guessing that the dead as a dodo v3/1 windows code is still present as well.

It seems that Arca is basically doing the same as the Dutch company did - just upgraded the drivers etc which the OS/2 community was providing any way.

Not worth the money at all but even if free I do not see myself even
installing it - just a very old O/S, same as CPM/MPM etc.

Vincent


--- Mageia Linux v9 X64/Mbse v1.1.7/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240604
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Hello Vincent!

08 Mar 26 15:22, you wrote to me:

Hello Vincent!

06 Mar 26 18:36, you wrote to me:

In the meanwhile I have now changed the port used from 24555 to the default of 24554 - JIC (Just in Case) which should be in the DAILY nodelists as of Saturday.

The url is the same if you do not use a nodelist.

Very well, I have re-sent all my updates to the 2:250/1 address... One of the batches of updates were inadvertently sent to port 24555 which I corrected and resent them to the appropriate port (24554).

All the best,
Marc Lewis


--- GoldED+/EMX 1.1.5-b20250409
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Hello Marc!

12 Mar 26 08:38, you wrote to me:

Hello Vincent!

08 Mar 26 15:22, you wrote to me:

Hello Vincent!

06 Mar 26 18:36, you wrote to me:

In the meanwhile I have now changed the port used from 24555 to
the default of 24554 - JIC (Just in Case) which should be in the
DAILY nodelists as of Saturday.

The url is the same if you do not use a nodelist.

Very well, I have re-sent all my updates to the 2:250/1 address... One
of the batches of updates were inadvertently sent to port 24555 which
I corrected and resent them to the appropriate port (24554).

Did you send it using your Fido address as I do not see any such files received
and acted upon.



Vincent


--- Mageia Linux v9 X64/Mbse v1.1.7/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240604
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Hello Vincent!

12 Mar 26 15:07, you wrote to me:

Hello Vincent!

08 Mar 26 15:22, you wrote to me:

Hello Vincent!

06 Mar 26 18:36, you wrote to me:

In the meanwhile I have now changed the port used from 24555 to
the default of 24554 - JIC (Just in Case) which should be in the
DAILY nodelists as of Saturday.

The url is the same if you do not use a nodelist.

Very well, I have re-sent all my updates to the 2:250/1 address...
One of the batches of updates were inadvertently sent to port 24555
which I corrected and resent them to the appropriate port (24554).

Did you send it using your Fido address as I do not see any such files
received and acted upon.

Well, it seems that 2:250/1 may be either off-line or is simply not answering:

-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-CUT-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-
? 12 Mar 11:48:13 [223] connection to 2:250/1@fidonet failed: Connection timed out.
-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-CUT-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-

Marc


--- GoldED+/EMX 1.1.5-b20250409
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Hi Marc,

On 2026-03-12 11:50:55, you wrote to Vincent Coen:

Well, it seems that 2:250/1 may be either off-line or is simply not answering:

-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-CUT-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-
? 12 Mar 11:48:13 [223] connection to 2:250/1@fidonet failed: Connection timed
out. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-CUT-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-

I can reach it with no problem. So there seems to be some (firewall) blocking going on somewhere between your systems.

So lets start with some of the basics to resolve this.

How does applewoodbbs.linkpc.net resolve to an IPv4 address on your system? This is what I get:

# host applewoodbbs.linkpc.net
applewoodbbs.linkpc.net has address 82.30.228.158

Unfortunately Vince's system can not be pinged, but 82.30.228.1 in the same sub-net can be. So you can try to ping that system to test if there is some kind of geo blocking going on.

And can you open http://applewoodbbs.linkpc.net/ in your webbrowser (from your fidosystem)? You should get the home webpage from Vince's system...


Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.3.2.6-B20251227
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Hello Marc!

12 Mar 26 18:17, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

Hello Wilfred!

12 Mar 26 19:25, you wrote to me:

On 2026-03-12 13:03:24, you wrote to me:

# host applewoodbbs.linkpc.net
applewoodbbs.linkpc.net has address 82.30.228.158

Here is what my ping returns:
PING applewoodbbs.linkpc.net: 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 172.235.136.206: icmp_seq=0. time=30. ms

That is the wrong IPv4 address! And probably the cause of your
connection problems. So the dns resolving on your fido machine
seems broken somehow.

And can you open http://applewoodbbs.linkpc.net/ in your
webbrowser (from your fidosystem)? You should get the home
webpage from Vince's system...

That's going to take a bit of doing as under OS/2 my Firefox for
OS/2 is very dated. I do have a Windows machine on the same
network; I can try it from there.

Please do! And also show us the nslookup (or ping) from that
machine to applewoodbbs.linkpc.net.

I was able to use Firefox on my Windows machine to reach it
successfully.

I have altered my binkd NODES.CFG to directly connect 2:250/1 to 82.30.228.158... Let's see how that goes.

Can you use the nodelist with Binkd ?



Vincent


--- Mageia Linux v9 X64/Mbse v1.1.7/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240604
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Hi Vincent,

On 2026-03-12 23:42:06, you wrote to Marc Lewis:

# host applewoodbbs.linkpc.net
applewoodbbs.linkpc.net has address 82.30.228.158

Here is what my ping returns:
PING applewoodbbs.linkpc.net: 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 172.235.136.206: icmp_seq=0. time=30. ms

I have altered my binkd NODES.CFG to directly connect 2:250/1 to
82.30.228.158... Let's see how that goes.

Can you use the nodelist with Binkd ?

That doesn't matter if the host name in the nodelist doesn't resolve to the correct IP address!


Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.3.2.6-B20251227
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Vincent Coen wrote to Marc Lewis <=-

It seems that Arca is basically doing the same as the Dutch company did
- just upgraded the drivers etc which the OS/2 community was providing
any way.

No, Arca Noae is doing much, much more than any other company did with
updating OS/2. AOS can run on UEFI-based machines, can use USB3+, has a
great built-in video subsystem (Panorama), has a LOT of Linux-based progerams ported natively to OS/2 (including bash and csh), has its own nice package manager, can assign RAM disks for extra RAM (it's still a 32-bit OS), and has
a very active community.

However, all of that does not come cheap and I can't justify that expense for
a BBS and my purposes.

But saying Arca Noae is just "upgrading the drivers" is ignorant.

Does AOS have issues? Yes. But most of the issues that can't be fixed are because IBM doesn't have a backbone when it comes to dealing with Microsoft because, after all, Windows 95 and up were originally based on OS/2. NTFS was originally a lightly modified verion of OS/2's HPFS filesystem. The Windows registry came from OS/2.

In the late 90s, I saw an in-house alpha of OS/2 Warp 4 that ran Windows
32-bit programs natively. That was an interesting sight.

-- Sean

... Windows: Very expensive OS/2 backup disks.

--- MultiMail/Linux
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Hello Vincent!

12 Mar 26 23:42, you wrote to me:

Hello Marc!

12 Mar 26 18:17, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

Hello Wilfred!

[snip]

12 Mar 26 19:25, you wrote to me:
I was able to use Firefox on my Windows machine to reach it
successfully.

I have altered my binkd NODES.CFG to directly connect 2:250/1 to
82.30.228.158... Let's see how that goes.

Can you use the nodelist with Binkd ?

No, it strictly utilses the NODES.CFG file:
node 2:250/1@fidonet 82.30.228.158

--
Warm regards,
Marc


--- GoldED+/EMX 1.1.5-b20250409
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Hello Wilfred!

13 Mar 26 18:35, you wrote to Marc Lewis:

Hi Marc,

On 2026-03-13 11:18:32, you wrote to you:

I have located the issue with the odd-ball IP address. I have
altered the actual routing in that machine's (OS/2) IP system
where it routes applewoodbbs.linkpc.net directly to
82.30.228.158.

And does that keep working if Vince for some reason changes the IP
address that applewoodbbs.linkpc.net resolves to?

As the problem has been resolved to be not related to my systems I will (when get around to it) return the post address back - However as there is only one system being utilised for both addresses there does not appear to be a rush if at all.

I.e., Leaving it as is - it was set up to use a Pi3B+ as the Elist system that run mbse, Elist software that was only routed to 250/1 for all traffic other than delivery of submission files.

The idea was to pass on the system to another node, hopefully a lot younger than me (79 in June) so that if I become ill or worse the service will
continue but no one came forwards - typical users et al.


Vincent


--- Mageia Linux v9 X64/Mbse v1.1.7/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240604
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Hi Vincent,

On 2026-03-13 18:29:35, you wrote to me:

As the problem has been resolved to be not related to my systems I
will (when get around to it) return the post address back - However as there is only one system being utilised for both addresses there does
not appear to be a rush if at all.

Yes, just keep it as is... ;-)

I.e., Leaving it as is - it was set up to use a Pi3B+ as the Elist
system that run mbse, Elist software that was only routed to 250/1 for
all traffic other than delivery of submission files.

The idea was to pass on the system to another node, hopefully a lot younger
than me (79 in June) so that if I become ill or worse the service will continue but no one came forwards - typical users et al.

It might have been more practical to create a virtual machine or docker container for it...


Bye, Wilfred.

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