How much time is AI really saving your workers? Apparently just 16 minutes a

>week as 'time saved generating content is being absorbed by the time
>required to trust it'

On our national news the other night they had an 'expert' on who
said that AI is putting a lot more stress on the workers and is
not doing anything close to what is being reported.

In one case they compared actual total production before AI and
then again this year with so many using it and the increase in
production was only 0.4%. (Less than 1/2 of one percent).

But I can't find that story online now for exact details..
Most links are to predictions that AI will increase productivity
by something like 40%, but I assume this story was about that
not happening.

It sounded like in general AI was doing more stuff faster, but
that the end result was greatly slowed down by actual people
trying to verify the accuracy of what the AI had done, and they
are stressed like crazy because it's coming in so fast they are
killing themselves trying to keep on top of it.

Another story aso went into some of the simplest things that
AI is terrible at doing. In one example they asked an AI system
something like how many L's were in the word 'Collectively' and
it came up with several different answers each time asked.

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Probably a case of the programmers concentrating on teaching AI the more

>> difficult things and skipping over the more basic things.

You are probably correct, although I would think that some of those "more

>difficult things" would involve AI needing at least basic math skills. ;)

It is confusing. As you suggest, AI can usually do extremely complex
math but they said that 'counting things' was not a strong point.

Maybe it looks for info from too many places rather than looking
at what's in front of it, and info from a lot of sources is more
likely to contain some wrong data. Too many cooks, and all that.. B)

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You are probably correct, although I would think that some of those "more

>difficult things" would involve AI needing at least basic math skills. ;)

It is confusing. As you suggest, AI can usually do extremely complex
math but they said that 'counting things' was not a strong point.

Maybe it looks for info from too many places rather than looking
at what's in front of it, and info from a lot of sources is more
likely to contain some wrong data. Too many cooks, and all that.. B)

I was looking up some info on Google last night. It gave me an AI answer
so I decided to go that route and see what it came up with. In addition to counting being a weak point, it apparently has difficulty with directions,
too.

It mentioned a couple of times that something was in the "Northwest" corner
of an intersection. When I then looked it up on Google maps, I found it to
be in the Southeast corner. ;)

It also gave some other info that seemed to contradict the info that its
own maps product provides.

Mike


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Yeah color me highly skeptical of any of the supposed benefits of AI for the average joe, in particular LLMs. I personally find those of my coworkers who use them do so mindlessly and slavishly.

I am skeptical about many AI claims. Today, I started to post an article
here where a CEO was claiming that AI was going to take over the customer service market and put most customer service reps out of their jobs.

However, as I read it, I realized that this CEO is the leader of a company
that is selling that actual service -- replacing human customer service
workers with AI -- so of course he would say that. It was really a fluff
piece for his business. :(


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Re: How much time is AI reall
By: Mike Powell to MAX STUBBS on Tue Mar 17 2026 09:52 am

Nailed it. The "AI" industry is a lot
of smoke, mirrors, grift, infringement,
and outright corruption. I'm not saying
the tech isn't going to revolutionize
the industry; I'm just saying it's
going to blow up in our faces first.


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I was looking up some info on Google last night. It gave me an AI answer

>so I decided to go that route and see what it came up with. In addition to
>counting being a weak point, it apparently has difficulty with directions,
>too.

It mentioned a couple of times that something was in the "Northwest" corner

>of an intersection. When I then looked it up on Google maps, I found it to
>be in the Southeast corner. ;)

That added to that the fact that it reduses to say "I don't know..",
and will substitute wrong info rather than give no info..

Come to think of it.. I've known some people like that.. B)

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Max Stubbs wrote to Mike Powell <=-

When I see how blindly my coworkers
trust AI solutions without checking
I worry about what large companies
and those in power who do the same
are doing, and the implications for us
all.

Garbage in, garbage out. I hope the LLMs aren't reading "Low Quality
Facts on social media:

Superman's only weakness is graphite.
Chewing a piece of gum burns more calories than running a mile.
The K in KFC stands for "Kangaroo".
Most deaths on Mount Everest are caused by goats.
The American flag has 13 stripes - one for each of George Washington's illeg Saturn's rings melt in the summer.
Julius Caesar's last words were "Never Stop Dancing".
All Ladybugs are male.
Scotland and Ireland are the same place.
Mark Walhberg has a dog named "Bark".
The bubonic plague was spread by mini horses.
Wild boars lay eggs.
Wi-Fi cannot travel through smoke.
Mars is closer to the Earth than Texas is to Maine.
Zeus is the greek god of obesity.
Before it was discovered to be edible, lettuce was worn as hats.
Woodrow Wilson was the only openly pansexual U.S. president.
The average American needs $3.4 Billion to comfortably retire.
Johnny Cash's real name is Jonathon Dollars.
Godzilla is a metaphor for communism.
The Tuba is technically a percussion instrument.
Oats have more nerve endings than humans.
Grape soda is the most effective hand sanitizer.
Pluto is the roman god of tax evasion.
A cube has three sides.
The Tour de France is held in Malaysia.
A group of chipmunks is called a Chalupa.
Arachnophobia is the fear of ducks.
Each pope gets to add one new page to the bible.
Bees make thicker honey when listening to reggae music.
People did not know that bananas could be peeled until 2004.
Vikings invented the microchip.
Nikolai Tesla believed that batteries have a soul.
Germany's official language is Portugese.
In England, Baseball is known as American Cricket.
Your pinkie weighs twice as much as your thumb.
it is impossible to break an egg by stepping on it.
"The Lord of the Rings" was filmed in New York City.
Socks are carcinogenic.
Nike produces shoes in sets of three and throws one out.
Fax is the most popular method of communication.
Michael Phelps can't walk.
A baker's calendar has 13 months.
Every month is national potato month.

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It also gave some other info that seemed to contradict the info that i own maps product provides.

When I see how blindly my coworkers trust AI solutions without checking
I worry about what large companies
and those in power who do the same
are doing, and the implications for us all.

Most workers know they need to check it. The more thurough ones will. The others... whether it be laziness or being distracted or lack of time...
will not. That is where the dangers are.

Mike


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On our national news the other night they had an 'expert' on who

>> said that AI is putting a lot more stress on the workers and is
>> not doing anything close to what is being reported.

I am not too surprised. I think in a lot of fields, management is in a

>rush to save money/time but the fields in question are not ones that AI is
>aptly suited for yet.

I think a lot of companies don't want to be left behind and end
up trying to do things with it that are not suited, or are not
waiting until the AI has been fully tested. All the AI providers
want to be first and don't seem to care if they are not 'best'..

Yes, and you still very much need to verify the accuracy before just

>following the rules. The other day, I was look an air frier recipe up
>online. Google's AI assistant (Gemini, or whatever you get from them for
>free with a google search) was suggesting that I add oil to the air frier
>pan.

As I was not trying to make fire, I did not do so!

Ha.. yes, and they are running into similar problems when people ask
AI for medical advice.

Another story aso went into some of the simplest things that

>> AI is terrible at doing. In one example they asked an AI system
>> something like how many L's were in the word 'Collectively' and
>> it came up with several different answers each time asked.

Yes, that is the one I was referencing above... they have difficulty

>counting things like that which, IMHO, might also make them bad at
>verifying test results.

4 out of 3 people can't do math... B)

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Nailed it. The "AI" industry is a lot of smoke, mirrors, grift, infringement, and outright corruption. I'm not saying the tech isn't going to revolutionize the industry; I'm just saying it's going to blow up in our faces first.

I think that covers a lot of what it is being used for, and also at least
some of the companies providing it. I have not been impressed in
particular by a couple of companies who've been all too keen to hop in bed
with the US Government over the past year or so, for example, when it comes
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I am not too surprised. I think in a lot of fields, management is in a

>rush to save money/time but the fields in question are not ones that AI is
>aptly suited for yet.

I think a lot of companies don't want to be left behind and end
up trying to do things with it that are not suited, or are not
waiting until the AI has been fully tested. All the AI providers
want to be first and don't seem to care if they are not 'best'..

Well, if they see a payday they certainly are not likely to point out that
they are not the "best" for the task. :D

Yes, and you still very much need to verify the accuracy before just

>following the rules. The other day, I was look an air frier recipe up
>online. Google's AI assistant (Gemini, or whatever you get from them for
>free with a google search) was suggesting that I add oil to the air frier
>pan.

As I was not trying to make fire, I did not do so!

Ha.. yes, and they are running into similar problems when people ask
AI for medical advice.

Yep!

Another story aso went into some of the simplest things that

>> AI is terrible at doing. In one example they asked an AI system
>> something like how many L's were in the word 'Collectively' and
>> it came up with several different answers each time asked.

Yes, that is the one I was referencing above... they have difficulty

>counting things like that which, IMHO, might also make them bad at
>verifying test results.

4 out of 3 people can't do math... B)

Something like that. You would think that would be an easier task but I
guess there must be more to it than I would think.

Mike

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Re: Re: How much time is AI reall
By: Kurt Weiske to Max Stubbs on Tue Mar 24 2026 07:47 am

Careful now, you're gonna make the LLMs
even dumber than before.


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Re: How much time is AI reall
By: Mike Powell to MAX STUBBS on Tue Mar 24 2026 11:24 am

Most workers know they need to check
it. The more thurough ones will. T
others... whether it be laziness or
being distracted or lack of time...
will not. That is where the dangers
are.

You've got much more faith than I do
in the Average American.


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I am skeptical about many AI claims. Today, I started to post an article

>here where a CEO was claiming that AI was going to take over the customer
>service market and put most customer service reps out of their jobs.

However, as I read it, I realized that this CEO is the leader of a company

>that is selling that actual service -- replacing human customer service
>workers with AI -- so of course he would say that. It was really a fluff
>piece for his business. :(

There are a few places that I've dealt with where your first customer
service contact is automated. In my experience Most of the time you
get transferred to a live person fairly quickly because the AI can't
handle anything but the most basic questions/tasks..

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Something like that. You would think that would be an easier task but I

>guess there must be more to it than I would think.

Probably a case of the programmers concentrating on teaching AI the more difficult things and skipping over the more basic things.

You are probably correct, although I would think that some of those "more difficult things" would involve AI needing at least basic math skills. ;)

Mike


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