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  • Re: Air Canada airplane c

    From Rob Mccart@1:2320/107 to WARD DOSSCHE on Sun Mar 29 08:03:44 2026
    There were also supposed to be lights that would have told the
    truck that the runway was 'in use' but the news wasn't sure they
    were there or functioning. They also figured one of the people
    in the truck should have been able to see the plane coming in if
    he'd looked, possibly in the mirror.

    Late hours, tiredness, dark, La Guardia at night is like a Christmas tree, so
    >ny light so there will be many contributing factors.

    But I've been airside at airports more than once, also in cockpits of commerc
    > airliners and I remember when crossing a runway, even with permission, alway
    >ook left and right before you continue. It takes only a second.

    Yes,the tape of the conversation showed the tower telling the fire
    truck to stop 3 times before it pulled out causing the accident so,
    regardless of everything else, that seems to be what really caused
    the whole thing. Why could they no longer hear the tower after they
    were first given permission to cross the runway?..

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    * SLMR Rob * Error - Unzipped item refuses to expand
    * Origin: Capitol City Online (1:2320/107)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Rob Mccart on Sun Mar 29 15:59:51 2026
    Hey Rob,

    Yes,the tape of the conversation showed the tower telling the fire
    truck to stop 3 times before it pulled out causing the accident so, regardless of everything else, that seems to be what really caused
    the whole thing. Why could they no longer hear the tower after they
    were first given permission to cross the runway?..

    From what I read (and heard), the tower controller indeed called "stop stop stop" but at first did not mention who had to stop nor where. Only after that did he mention "Truck 1" and my assumption is that at that time it was already too late. It went so fast.

    I'm certain the NTSB will get to the bottom of this.

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - 20230201
    * Origin: AVIATION ECHO HQ (2:292/854)
  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/107 to WARD DOSSCHE on Thu Mar 26 06:40:15 2026
    RIP to the two pilots, and may their family and friends find peace..

    You know, accidents such as this are avoidable, they do not happen
    >but are commited.

    And now the finger-pointing will start. Let's find someone to blame.

    From what I've heard there were 2 air traffic controllers working and
    there were 2 emergencies that happened at the same time which started
    the incident BUT it looks like the problem that caused the accident
    was the fire truck stopped hearing what the tower was saying. They
    were told to stop several times before they drove across the runway.

    There were also supposed to be lights that would have told the
    truck that the runway was 'in use' but the news wasn't sure they
    were there or functioning. They also figured one of the people
    in the truck should have been able to see the plane coming in if
    he'd looked, possibly in the mirror.

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    * SLMR Rob * That's my opinion... It's a beauty ain't it ?
    * Origin: Capitol City Online (1:2320/107)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Rob Mccart on Thu Mar 26 15:09:23 2026
    There were also supposed to be lights that would have told the
    truck that the runway was 'in use' but the news wasn't sure they
    were there or functioning. They also figured one of the people
    in the truck should have been able to see the plane coming in if
    he'd looked, possibly in the mirror.

    Late hours, tiredness, dark, La Guardia at night is like a Christmas tree, so many light so there will be many contributing factors.

    But I've been airside at airports more than once, also in cockpits of commercial airliners and I remember when crossing a runway, even with permission, always look left and right before you continue. It takes only a second.

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - 20230201
    * Origin: AVIATION ECHO HQ (2:292/854)